Historic serial numbers

[bluesjuke]

This is from a sticky at the Gibson Forum;
From Gibson's site;
1) HISTORIC '50s SOLIDBODIES, EXAMPLE: 7 1001 (1957 Goldtop)
-the first digit represents the year being reissued (1957)
-the 2nd digit represents the year the guitar was made (2001)
-the remaining 3 (or sometimes 4) digits represent the guitar's place in the sequence of '50s solidbodies EDIT; of each respective model Reissue year, produced that year.

THE CUSTOM SHOP GUITAR SERIAL NUMBERS. - Historic Collection - Gibson Forums


Still the same right?
I don't think it's changed.

 

[Hum-Free]

Got this from: http://www.gibson.com/en-us/support/serialnumbersearch/

"Gibson Custom

1952-1960 Les Paul, Explorer, Flying V, and Futura reissues (since late 1992):
M YRRR or MYRRRR
M is the model year being reissued
Y is the production year
RRR(R) indicates the guitar's place production for that year. NOTE: This number includes all models for a particular reissue year - so, for example, a 1958 Reissue serial number may include '58 Reissue LP Standard and '58 Explorer production."

Slight difference is that the 3 or 4 sequence numbers indicate the place in production for a reissue year (whichever year of production) not all 50's solid bodies made in a production year. Although, in reality the two statements probably mean the same thing!

Conflicting info from Mother again?

 

[bluesjuke]

No, not conflicting at all.
The info I posted is what you posted and I know the info was the way Gibson does it.

I was asking if anyone knew that it changed.
I hadn't heard that it had and didn't think so.

 

[alainguitars]

How would you be able to tell a 1997 from a 2007? Wouldn't the second number for both be a 7? Example 8 7xxx

 

[sgberry]

How would you be able to tell a 1997 from a 2007? Wouldn't the second number for both be a 7? Example 8 7xxx

Even Gibson Customer Service can not do it for you?eace2

 

[LPCollector]

This is from a sticky at the Gibson Forum;
From Gibson's site;
1) HISTORIC '50s SOLIDBODIES, EXAMPLE: 7 1001 (1957 Goldtop)
-the first digit represents the year being reissued (1957)
-the 2nd digit represents the year the guitar was made (2001)
-the remaining 3 (or sometimes 4) digits represent the guitar's place in the sequence of '50s solidbodies produced that year.

Again................all is correct, except the part in red.

The last 3 or 4 is the number produced for that reissued year.

9 3663 is an R9 from '03 and is the 633rd produced.
0 3025 is an R0 from '03 and is the 25th produced.
8 3226 is an R8 from '03 and is the 226th produced.

 

[LPCollector]

How would you be able to tell a 1997 from a 2007? Wouldn't the second number for both be a 7? Example 8 7xxx

You can only tell by the guitars appointments.

 

[bluesjuke]

That's the case wit the '97 and '07.

Do you have anything that details Gibson changing the significance of the last three digits.
There are different models within the same Reissue year that would fall in same sequence as pointed out by Hum-Free.

 

[LPCollector]

Do you have anything that details Gibson changing the significance of the last three digits.
There are different models within the same Reissue year that would fall in same sequence as pointed out by Hum-Free.

I think that we are mis communicating........I'm saying what Hum-Free is saying........

I am rebutting your original post of...."ALL 50's soild body guitars"......no more......no less.

 

[bluesjuke]

Well as you know that is info I posted from the Gibson Forum that I found and has been reffered to here before.
Yes, that is vague as the truth lies in the sequence will include say an R8 and a '58 Jr. not all of the sequential numbers will be R8's and that is what I am saying so I guess we don't disagee.

The wording as you noted does not spell that out.
I edited it to how it should read.(the "red" part).

 

[sgberry]

You should take multiple pics of guitar( headstock, back, front etc.) and send them to Gibson Customer Service , then you will get answer.

 

[LPCollector]

I just found this link.... it should clarify this matter.

http://forums.gibson.com/Default.aspx?g=posts&t=1992

 

[AdrianG]

Does anyone know how the Chambered Historics numbering system work as they start with CR?? My guess is the first digit after CR determines whether the guitar is a R7,8,9 etc, the second digit the year of manufacture and the last three the number made in that year - am I right???

 

[LPCollector]

Does anyone know how the Chambered Historics numbering system work as they start with CR?? My guess is the first digit after CR determines whether the guitar is a R7,8,9 etc, the second digit the year of manufacture and the last three the number made in that year - am I right???

Yes, you are correct.

I miss my CR0.......at least a forum member got it.

 

[sgant]

you'd think that some enterprising programmer could put together a web-page with a javascript program that could tell you what year etc etc your LP was made.

 

[Zepnut]

You could go here, http://www.historiclespauls.com/ and find guitars or serial numbers similar to yours. :salude

 

[misterdistortion]

Can anyone help me identify my Goldtop? I bought around the Millenium from a Gibson dealer here in North London.
I have always assumed that it is a late 90s Historic Collection (1998?) 57 Goldtop but the serial number begins with 8-****

 

[D'Mule]

The last 3 or 4 is the number produced for that reissued year.

9 3663 is an R9 from '03 and is the 633rd produced.
0 3025 is an R0 from '03 and is the 25th produced.
8 3226 is an R8 from '03 and is the 226th produced.

This issue comes up all of the time, and remains confusing to me. Every time I read what Gibson says, I understand that all '58 reissues (R8, Juniors, etc) share the same sequence 8 YRRR(R), and all '57 reissues (R7, Black Beauty, etc.) are intermingled in the sequence 7 YRRR(R), and ...

So why do people think they can look at a number and say that it was the nth R9 made that year?:hmm

 

[bluesjuke]

You can't.
Read the link LP Collector posted;
http://forums.gibson.com/Default.aspx?g=posts&t=1992

It's pretty much what I trying to say (and inquire about) from the start.